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Unread 02-18-2013, 05:08 PM
dez077 dez077 is offline
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Default Should P5 Junior and lightweight cut off dates be extend to 1983 to allow RZ's

I love my alloy framed Spondon's - they're the exact same frame as the steel Spondon just use alloy box tube instead of steel round tube.
cost a small fortune to build them mind.
see you at the Barry Sheene

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Unread 02-19-2013, 08:28 AM
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30th December cut-off ...... for everything P5, every class, every capacity, ALL components (apart from re-production parts) is how it should always have been.

They opened a can of worms allowing 17" rims and all the rest way-back-when in the unlimited class IMHO.

18" tyres can't handle the weight/power of a "modern" Unlimited Forgotten Era bike? Well you'll have to fucking SLOW DOWN to ride within the capabilities then won't you? Just like back in the day.

I've been out of the scene for a while now, but this still annoys me!

It could have all been so pure and simple, an affordable, authentic, level playing field for all!

.... Oh, and tyre warmers, don't get me started on bloody tyre warmers!
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Unread 02-19-2013, 12:12 PM
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there will always be a few with money and influence that ruin it for the grass roots guys, without whom there would never have been anything to fuck up in the first place.........amen

Mind you Greg i do have a spare set of tyre warmers if you are interested....
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Unread 02-19-2013, 07:11 PM
inspectorbrian inspectorbrian is offline
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just catching up with the discussion.

I think I'd have to agree with all the comments so far...the 83 on valves have no place in period 5J at national or state title meetings.........

however, at club meetings I think theres always scope for inclusion just to fill the grids...

theres heaps of RZs around and getting people on the grid is always good....I've been asked a few times by people wanting to come racing what bike they should get to start LCs are getting harder to find, and TZs are just crazy for a beginner, and riding a four stroke is just un-thinkable, I've been recommending RZs or to buy, easy to ride and maintain and DJ hinted we have a period 6 class in WA which is starting to take off, and we also run a club class called rule 20,basically for bikes over 20 theres always a class to race aint a problem really.......

if someone wanted to race a 250 or 350 valve at our club meetings in with the period 5 350s then good luck to em........I've even been encouraging our club to let the period 6 250s run in the same races as the period 5 350s....its great when they do.....

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Unread 02-20-2013, 06:38 AM
Jools Jools is offline
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I don't understand - ??
Its not as if there isn't a class for them already.

The P5 350 races are generally one of the better filled grids with P4/P5 250's & 350's

Can of worms i reckon - once you open the door they will expect to expand..
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